I was not offended at all Cloudy and I don't see why anyone else should have been, either. I wish you didn't delete your posts. I think we should all be mature enough to agree to disagree at times. That is what makes the forum family more interesting. We agree on a lot of things, but every now and then, we disagree.

Agreed. Even though samie and I obviously disagreed, I'm still willing to share out this chicken wing recipe if it turns out to be decent!

TM-You hit the nail on the head.I started to post to Cloudy too,but I didn't want to butt in.You are more eloquent in that department.I know for a fact that at times I ramble and spew,but thats who I am and thats why I stay on here.You peeps let me be me without chastizing(sp) me or making me feel stupid.I don't need anybodys help I can manage that just fine.
As Lilmama says,we have our differences at times,but we still have our right in this country to say what we want.
Cloudy,You have been a breath of fresh air for us,and we don't want you to hold back your feelings.
Okay,I'm through spewing-BUT-I'll be bbbbbaaaaaccccckkkkkk

I think if I deleted all the things I've said here that were irrelevent or emotional rambling, I'd probably have to delete about 97.2% of all my posts!!!

That's the great thing about the net though. There's bound to be dozens of web-sites that have only pertinent and relevent information to read. Like the the pages of the U.S. State Department, the NYSE, an online IT training manual, the annual reports of any Corporation, etc.

For those of us who want to read energetic, colorful, fun-filled and emotional posts, there are hundreds of millions of web-sites.... like this one.

And I think another thing that may have been overlooked is the simple fact that NOT EVERYBODY HERE lives in Eddyville! (Some of us even live in DIFFERENT STATES besides Kansas) How are we supposed to have any relevent information to add?

Talimook

Lilmama and I were out of town visiting our folks this past week when all this protest stuff went down.

Ironically, while we were out there, we ran into some friends of ours that still live where lilmama grew up. One of the guys is a volunteer fireman in that town. In fact the whole fire department is a volunteer force.

This particular town is about half the population of Edwardsville, but their fire crew covers not only the town but half the county as well.

Anyways, this guy told us that everybody gets paid $10 per fire.

I'm not saying it's an apples to apples comparison, but that figure stuck in my brain, and when we got back and read about that protest that's what initially sparked me to write. I forgot to mention it in my other posts.

So, if you figure maybe 12 guys getting $10 bucks each would be maybe $1.2k per fire in manpower costs to this particular city, which is a far cry from what I calculated for Edwardsville ($62k per fire).

I know it's not apples to apples, but it's certainly not pumpkins to apples. Maybe oranges to apples. Or pears to apples. I'm going bananas!

T&T and Tali-You guys are great fun to be around.

Cloudy, check your PMs.

$10 per fire what deal, enjoy your new chicken recipe.

LODD at Alton

It is with deep regret that the KSFFA announces the passing of Firefighter Lyle Lewis, 50, of Osborne County Fire District # 3 at Alton. Firefighter Lewis collapsed during an interior fire attack at a farm home on June 16, 2009. He was transported to Osborne County Hospital where he passed away. Funeral arrangements are pending.

Update 6/18 - Funeral will be Saturday, June 20, 2009. Time to be announced. Funeral procession router from Osborne where the funeral will be held to the Kill Creek Cemetery.
Lyle C. Lewis


Lyle C. Lewis, 50, Alton, KS., died Tuesday, June 16, 2009. Mr. Lewis was born in Concordia, Kansas on June 29, 1958, the son of the late Chester Lyle and Lula May (Snyder) Lewis.

He owned L & L Fencing of Alton, was a minister and a volunteer Firefighter for Alton Rural Fire Dept.

He is survived by his wife Sherry of the home. He is also survived by daughter(s): Sandra Lewis of Glade, KS., Jessica Brown of Ransom, KS., Jennifer Saathoff of Beloit, KS. and Son(s): Lyle Lewis, Jr. of Osborne, KS., Ryan Lewis of Alton, KS., Justin Lewis of Topeka, KS. He is also survived by 11 grandchildren.

Funeral Service will be at 2:00 P.M. Saturday June 20, 2009 at the Osborne High School New Gym, Osborne, Kansas. Visitation will be Friday 2-8 P.M. at Clark-Gashaw Chapel, Osborne, KS. Interment will be in the Kill Creek Cemetery in Rural Osborne, KS. Memorials may be made to Alton Rural Fire Dept. or to Mt. Ayr Friends Church both of Alton, KS.


Special Funeral Mission Alert - American Legion Riders/Patriot Guards

triedntru wrote:

Lilmama and I were out of town visiting our folks this past week when all this protest stuff went down. Ironically, while we were out there, we ran into some friends of ours that still live where lilmama grew up. One of the guys is a volunteer fireman in that town. In fact the whole fire department is a volunteer force. This particular town is about half the population of Edwardsville, but their fire crew covers not only the town but half the county as well. Anyways, this guy told us that everybody gets paid $10 per fire. I'm not saying it's an apples to apples comparison, but that figure stuck in my brain, and when we got back and read about that protest that's what initially sparked me to write. I forgot to mention it in my other posts. So, if you figure maybe 12 guys getting $10 bucks each would be maybe $1.2k per fire in manpower costs to this particular city, which is a far cry from what I calculated for Edwardsville ($62k per fire). I know it's not apples to apples, but it's certainly not pumpkins to apples. Maybe oranges to apples. Or pears to apples. I'm going bananas!

What is the point you are trying to make Samie ? That firefighters die ?

Yes I guess that could be part of my point, we should not ask anyone to give there life for $10 per call. We should not be so selfish and expect this kind of sacrifice from fellow human beings.

I don't think you will find anyone on this board advocating that we should pay firefighters $10 per call. TNT's point, if I understood it right, was that there are many around our country who fire fires as much as a public service as they do to make a living. In his original post TNT said upfront that he was playing devils advocate, that being said, is it or is it not true that the fire Chief said publicly that 4 men could run a rig ? If that is true, I see where the cut may have been justified. If that is not true, I would like to hear it from someone who knows and understands why it isn't true. I would also very much like to know what the agreement was that resolved the protest. Everyone on here has the deepest respect and admiration for the men and women who serve the public, be that Firefighters, Police or EMTs. That isn't the issue as I am seeing it. The main question is whether it is safe for a crew of 4 men to run a rig and whether there were other areas that cuts could be made.

Samie,Lots of people die in service .Iraq,Viet Nam,Germany,Kelly Murphy,and guess what?Alot of people give their life for no money-My's husband trying to help a woman and her kids.Lifes not even-some people like sports players make millions and are idolized and help nobbody.
I would think the firefighter making 10.00 per call might be a volunteer in some way.T&T correct me if I'm wrong.

Che Guevara's granddaughter poses semi-nude for PETA http://www.kansascity.com/stargazing/story/1265606.html what next?

I can't believe those heartless monsters. Killing all those innocent baby carrots just to make a photo. They will never have the chance to grow into mature carrots, to develop seeds of their own, or to sprout delicious greens to be munched-on by lady bugs and bunnies. They will never have the chance to be plucked from the garden, bringing pride and a sense of satisfaction to the gardener, who so painstakingly planted them in a neat row. How sad. How utterly sad...

Tali

Yeah,My bunny may die because of all those being wasted.They should be ashamed of themselves.
Is that a fly on her face???? Refering to the one Obama killed:rotf:

Yeah!!! She posed for a PETA photo-shoot with a dead fly stuck to her face!

I meant no harm (and surely did not mean to encourage deleting posts) in my previous ramblings on. I realize this is a conversation, and that conversations do tend to wander somewhat.

I also meant no disrespect to any of the previous postings in this (or any) thread.

I will try to review my comments prior to hitting that 'send' button. I was just trying to applaud a previous post that seemed to be very well thought out and constructive.

Please accept my humble apology for the 'critical' tone in my previous posting.

Sincerely,
Who

Whoville,
I guess we just misinterpreted your post. I have no doubt that your apology will be accepted by all!

No need to feel bad though! Grab yerself a pina collata and kick off yer shoes. We come to have fun under the sun here on The Island.




Tali